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Re: Retraction and apology to LD and Vox (Re: Vox Tonelab for looping)



That sounds very cool.  Do you know, can any of the the tonelabs delays 
self-oscillate a la the old bucket-brigade delays?  That is one of the 
coolest effects and no one seems to make delays that can do it.  I need 
a delay that has tap tempo self-oscillation and looping.  I think 
Maneco who make the Maneco loopers is building a device that can do 
this.  No one mention the line 6 as I am not going to pay that kind of 
money for something that is going to break and the replacement part 
cost almost as much as a new unit.  My friend had one and when it broke 
that's what line 6 told him to do, buy a new chip or processor which 
was probably 75% of the cost of a new unit.  When my old memory man 
broke I sent it to EH and for 16 bucks they fixed it.

On Jun 18, 2004, at 4:26 PM, msottilaro wrote:

> On Jun 18, 2004, at 10:33 AM, DJ wrote:
>
>> I'm curious, what kind of looping capabilities does the Tonelab SE 
>> have?
>
> Vox doesn't advertise it because nobody cares about looping, silly. ;) 
>  Here's what it does straight from the manual:
>
> 10. HOLD DELAY (HOLD DLY) MONO IN/MONO OUT 1
> If you assign “HOLD DLY” to the CONTROL pedal, you’ll be able to hold 
> the delay
> sound.
> [1] “TIME” 1–8000 [ms] Sets the delay time.
> [2] “FEEDBACK” 0.0–10.0 * Adjusts the amount of feedback.
> [3] “TONE” 1.0–10.0 * Adjusts the tone of the delay sound.
> [6] “MIX” 0.0–10.0 * Adjusts the mix amount of the delay sound.
> CONTROL pedal: HOLD DLY: If you select “HOLD DLY” for the CONTROL
> pedal, the delay sound will be held from the
> moment you turn the pedal on.
>
> What the manual doesn't say is that when you change delay times it 
> behaves like the old Digitech PDS8000 and old analog delay pedals 
> where you get all sorts of warping during the change.  That makes for 
> some fun effects.
>
>> lso, I saw you mention in another post that the Tonelab will let you 
>> disable the cabinet simulations so you can use it with an amp w/out 
>> double filtering your signal.  I am wondering if it is possible for 
>> you to disable all the amp-like parts and use it as a multi-fx unit.
>
> Yes, that's the idea.
>
>> Can you tweak the parameters in real time easily while you playing?
>
> Yeah, totally.  You can also assign any perimeter to one of the 
> expression pedals so you don't have to be bending over all the time to 
> knob twiddle.  You can do that as well, though.  It's got a really 
> simple to navigate interface where you have "soft" knobs that change 
> function depending on what your tweaking.
>
>> I would like to get the Tonelab to record with and then I would like 
>> to use it with a real guitar amp and use just the FX onstage, but I 
>> need to be able to adjust things real-time while on stage.  Can this 
>> be done with the Tonelab?  If it also has looping it may have 
>> everything I need.  Thanks!
>
> That's the whole idea behind this piece of gear.  Check it out, you 
> may hate it's presets but once tweaked you can do a lot with this 
> badboy.
>
> Mark
>