Re: Retraction and apology to LD and Vox (Re: Vox Tonelab for looping)

["Shane Whitbread" <shanewhitbread@sympatico.ca>]

the boss DD-20 does tap and oscillation as well.  Probably the best delay
pedal on the market today......

Also, count this as a bump....I too wanna know if they ocsillate or
not......
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "DJ" <dhjohnson@mindspring.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: Retraction and apology to LD and Vox (Re: Vox Tonelab for
looping)


> That sounds very cool.  Do you know, can any of the the tonelabs delays
> self-oscillate a la the old bucket-brigade delays?  That is one of the
> coolest effects and no one seems to make delays that can do it.  I need
> a delay that has tap tempo self-oscillation and looping.  I think
> Maneco who make the Maneco loopers is building a device that can do
> this.  No one mention the line 6 as I am not going to pay that kind of
> money for something that is going to break and the replacement part
> cost almost as much as a new unit.  My friend had one and when it broke
> that's what line 6 told him to do, buy a new chip or processor which
> was probably 75% of the cost of a new unit.  When my old memory man
> broke I sent it to EH and for 16 bucks they fixed it.
>
> On Jun 18, 2004, at 4:26 PM, msottilaro wrote:
>
> > On Jun 18, 2004, at 10:33 AM, DJ wrote:
> >
> >> I'm curious, what kind of looping capabilities does the Tonelab SE
> >> have?
> >
> > Vox doesn't advertise it because nobody cares about looping, silly. ;)
> >  Here's what it does straight from the manual:
> >
> > 10. HOLD DELAY (HOLD DLY) MONO IN/MONO OUT 1
> > If you assign “HOLD DLY” to the CONTROL pedal, you’ll be able to hold
> > the delay
> > sound.
> > [1] “TIME” 1–8000 [ms] Sets the delay time.
> > [2] “FEEDBACK” 0.0–10.0 * Adjusts the amount of feedback.
> > [3] “TONE” 1.0–10.0 * Adjusts the tone of the delay sound.
> > [6] “MIX” 0.0–10.0 * Adjusts the mix amount of the delay sound.
> > CONTROL pedal: HOLD DLY: If you select “HOLD DLY” for the CONTROL
> > pedal, the delay sound will be held from the
> > moment you turn the pedal on.
> >
> > What the manual doesn't say is that when you change delay times it
> > behaves like the old Digitech PDS8000 and old analog delay pedals
> > where you get all sorts of warping during the change.  That makes for
> > some fun effects.
> >
> >> lso, I saw you mention in another post that the Tonelab will let you
> >> disable the cabinet simulations so you can use it with an amp w/out
> >> double filtering your signal.  I am wondering if it is possible for
> >> you to disable all the amp-like parts and use it as a multi-fx unit.
> >
> > Yes, that's the idea.
> >
> >> Can you tweak the parameters in real time easily while you playing?
> >
> > Yeah, totally.  You can also assign any perimeter to one of the
> > expression pedals so you don't have to be bending over all the time to
> > knob twiddle.  You can do that as well, though.  It's got a really
> > simple to navigate interface where you have "soft" knobs that change
> > function depending on what your tweaking.
> >
> >> I would like to get the Tonelab to record with and then I would like
> >> to use it with a real guitar amp and use just the FX onstage, but I
> >> need to be able to adjust things real-time while on stage.  Can this
> >> be done with the Tonelab?  If it also has looping it may have
> >> everything I need.  Thanks!
> >
> > That's the whole idea behind this piece of gear.  Check it out, you
> > may hate it's presets but once tweaked you can do a lot with this
> > badboy.
> >
> > Mark
> >
>