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cheers Gary... sorry about lack of clarity - maybe i do need to use a sampler but the thing of it its.. i need to use foot control to trigger ready recorded loops (with a whole lotta memory), and whilst doing that, be able to loop live...is the Echoplex the unit im looking for? ps. at this stage the RC-20 rocks, but im looking for more ready memory capacity at my foot disposal on 31/12/04 5:46 PM, Gary Lehmann at hqr@cox.net wrote: > This is a reply to Dave [daves@eleventh-hour.com.au] but also concerning >the > recent thread about the limitations of the RC-20. > The Boss RC-20 is not a very highly actualized looper--but it shines in >the > "record a loop and solo over it" department. Although some users have > overcome its limitations (usually by adding another delay or looper), its > price should be telling you something. > It is true that the digital Echoplex is expensive (and doesn't seem to be > getting cheaper!), but it does everything most folks need (and they all >need > a little something different). Loop IV was a giant step forward, but >even > with Loop III you could undo all but the first layer (I have a MIDI patch > called Undo bomb that does it at one button press), end record with >overdub, > end playback with record, restart the loop, reverse playback, etc etc. > There are more and more ways to loop--Live IV sounds like a winner, >Ambiloop > is also a groovy (and freeware) computer looper, and I am eagerly >awaiting > Warren Sirota's MultiLoop Live software release which he claims emulates >the > functions of the EDP. The rebirth of the Repeater seems to be around the > corner--but you JUST CAN'T GO WRONG with the EDP. > But they ain't cheap. > The RC is cheap and has no feedback control. How artistic is that? > So maybe Dave needs to use a sampler for his sound effects (he wasn't >real > clear exactly what he needs), but he could use the EDP for looping and >the > RC-20 for sample playback! > Gary > > >