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-----Original Message----- From: Dave [mailto:daves@eleventh-hour.com.au] cheers Gary... sorry about lack of clarity - maybe i do need to use a sampler but the thing of it its.. i need to use foot control to trigger ready recorded loops (with a whole lotta memory), and whilst doing that, be able to loop live...is the Echoplex the unit im looking for? ps. at this stage the RC-20 rocks, but im looking for more ready memory capacity at my foot disposal ---->Well . . . If you like the RC-20 for loops, get a second one for sample play too. Like was posted earlier, the RC-20XL has 16 MINUTES of sample time (I think that's a lot). Gary