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I think this is one possible idea. but the joy of max is expandability as you learn more, and you lose that if you don't have the program..... build a person an instrument, and they'll want more features all the time; teach a person to build an instrument and they'll add features themselves....for a lifetime.... I found it fairly quick to get up and running with max on a basic level, and then I've added more as I've learned more. cheers, jeff Jeff Kaiser http://www.jeffkaisermusic.com pfMENTUM.com • AngryVegan.com On Jun 29, 2006, at 9:54 AM, David Coffin wrote: > I’m kinda surprised that no one’s responded to this idea: > Get Max/MSP aces to build what you need, or share what they’ve already > built, and use these in Max’s free runtime environment, at least until > you decide that you MUST get out your own hammers and screwdrivers. > > I’m very fond of it, altho I’ve never fully implemented it. I did once > post a request on a Max forum for max developers regarding what I > thought was a simple project, after downloading the demo and hitting a > brick wall almost immediately with doing something on my own. I got a > LOT of responses from folks eager to help out for reasonable dough. > Unfortunately, the guy I settled on seems to have not been able to > make what I wanted after all, and the project ran out of steam. But I > still plan to try again someday. I like the notion of sending a > friendly/savvy someone who gets what I’m about a few $$ now and then > to build or tweak me a unique toy over dropping +/-$500 on a tool I’d > need to spend months learning to use clumsily and really only want a > few things from. > > Anybody else getting joy out of runtime Max? > dc > > (Sorry; can’t resist asking Kris: What about Pluggo?? “Max” fx > fun....!) > > >> On Jun 28, 2006, at 9:41 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: >> >>> Well, with MAX/MSP, I don't plan on doing any serious programming at >>> the outset, just hosting my current VST effects and Reaktor 5, plus >>> Mobius.