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For me too, it means 'avante-garde' or 'experimental', or 'difficult listening' if you had never been exposed to such a thing. So, if one does this, where do you play, and how often? Do you have to 'tame' it down for some gigs? And did any one ever get fired from a gig because it was too odd? Dave Eichenberger http://www.hazardfactor.com > But weird....really wierd solo looping....I'd have to say it > mostly falls into experimental and avant-garde to me...when > it's weird, it generate a distrinct feeling for me....but > that is probably just my own idiosyncrasity. > > Kris > >