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please take me off of the mailing list. thanks > From: perboysen@gmail.com > Subject: Ending actions by Record in Mobius (Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper) > Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 18:40:42 +0200 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Of course I can elaborate on this. My problems are when ending an > action with REcord on the master track. Since I use the setting "Sync > = Out" for setting the tempo by the first loop I have to do the > destructive cuts on the master track to get the synced plug-ins > instantly pick up the new tempo. I'd rather avoid using the first > (master) track at all in Mobius and I have a special script that > mutes it and copies its first recorded loop into track 2; just to > avoid drop-outs and rhythmic glitches. This is working extremely well > in a solo looping concert situation where I don't need to use the > master track except for creating the very first loop. > > When applied to the slaved tracks, of Mobius, I have no problem to go > Multiply-Record or Record-Record. But that's a different thing than > this thread was about. I was only talking about a nice way of > changing tempo of a looper to adjust to tempo changing live musicians > and for this the EDP is my favorite. > > The two latest betas of Mobius are remarkably better in this regard, > though. > > Per > > > On 5 okt 2007, at 17.45, Jeff Larson wrote: > > >>> Was really surprised that Mobius doesn't play all these tricks.. > >> > >> Oh yes it does! But not without audio artifacts or rhythmic hiccups. > > > > Wow, that's news to me. Can you elaborate on what you're hearing > > (over in the zonemobius group if you prefer). What you describe: > > > >> 1) On the EDP you can always hit Record to erase everything and start > > > >> a new loop > > > > This is basic re-Record I do it all the time. > > > >> 2) I also keep one button to instantly retrigger the loop > >> ("stutter"). > > > > This is Retrigger, also a common function. The only "artifact" > > you will have here is a slight trimming of the start of the loop to > > adjust for latency. Sometimes I hear this if the loop starts > > immediately with a sharp attack but not usually. This affects > > the sound of the attack but not the rhythm, the loop will > > begin playing from where it would be if there were zero latency. > > > >> 3) I the group tempo changes while I'm working a floating, non > >> rhythmic, loop I might simply go Multiply-Record to cut it down to a > >> duration that loops in synk. > > > > This is Unrounded Multiply, also common. Again the only artifact will > > be a slight trimming of the start of the loop for latency adjustment > > the first time it plays. > > > > The only serious artifacts I'm aware of in doing these operations have > > been bugs when you do them while generating output sync, which > > occasionally results in redundant retriggers making a "fluttering" > > sound. But if you have output sync turned off, which you would in the > > acoustic example, there isn't much happening that could cause > > artifacts > > other than the latency adjustment. > > > > Has this been happening long or is it something in the most recent > > release? > > > > Thanks, > > Jeff > > > > > > Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! Try now! |