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At 12:53 PM -0800 12/30/07, info at zoekeating wrote: >sorry about that. i worried that we were about to dive into the >destructive (in my opinion!) trend of publicly trashing brand new >looping tools. i'll stay out of it! loop on! Oh no no no no no, don't worry about that!!! If there's something I'm really interested in, then the first thing I always do is pick it apart piece-by-piece. It looks destructive, but it's actually only the fact that I want to know exactly what I can do with a tool, what I can't do with it, and what I can/need to do to twist it around and do new things with it. It's not enmity at all. In fact, I think that Philippe's come up with a pretty neat tool here. In fact, if I weren't genuinely interested, I'd instead be completely indifferent. I know I can be a bit of a curmudgeon sometimes, so maybe I was a bit too direct in my questioning. But no worries here about a "public trashing of brand new looping tools". I merely want to know what the heck is under the hood! :) --m. -- _____ "the wind in my heart; the dust in my head...."