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Speaking of logic, philosophy, and debating, and as a side-topic, years ago a logic quiz came out in Time Magazine. I took the liberty to convert that quiz into a webpage, here: http://www.krispenhartung.com/logicquiz/ It is a lot of fun. You can click until you get the right answers, and at the bottom is a link that I created (not part of the original quiz), which explains why the answers are correct. All of the answers are based on classic logic and rules of derivation - modus ponens, modus tolens, rules of necessary and sufficient conditions, etc People with a back ground in logic, mathematics, or electrical engineering (like my wife), typically ace this quiz. My wife aced it without even trying...must have been all that logic of gates, switches, etc, burned in her brain. :) Kris