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The Axe-FX is a computer. No difference really except it's got built in converters. I was even under the impression that Fractal was busy porting their software to run on Windows. Your experience with laptops is probably a bit dated as I'm able to get quite a lot of effects (including Amplitube) running inside of Live with nary a hitch at pretty low latencies in a 4 year old laptop. I do even better with my desktop. The trick is adjusting a few things in Windows that are designed to help a general computer user, but hinder real time audio production. Once you fix that it's great. Sorry, I've seen about a hundred threads where guys claim to be able to hear the superior sound quality of dedicated hardware and then proceed to not be able to tell the difference in blind tests. It's all just stuff that should be a means to an end so what ever works for you. I know for myself, I played with NI's Guitar Rig 3 and thought, "Oh, I guess computers can't do amp simulation well" and I dismissed it as an option. It wasn't until I tried Amplitube SVX out on my bass that I was compelled to give it another look see. I'd be super curious to put the Axe-FX against the IK stuff and see what's what. On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Anders Bergdahl<anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com> wrote: > And the axafx is supposed to sound REALLY good, several tube amp fanatics > rave about it. I would much prefer an axefx based rig over a computer >based > rig. Since i LOVE tube anps and find playing great amp being a pleasure >much > like enjoying a great single malt (or wine if you prefer) computer based >is > a non starter for. One reason could be that i find it hard for >most laptiops > I have used at work to even cope with riunning a few instances of IE and > some office applications without geting hickup... > Again MY main reason for sticking with tube amps is that they are more >to me > than amps, they are a part of the instrument, electric guitar. > > Anders > www.soundclick.com/andersbergdahl > >> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:45:20 -0700 >> Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY >> From: zerocrossing@gmail.com >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> No kidding! However when I think of the fact that my Vox/VF-1 was >> about half that price (and the VF-1 was used when I got it) and I >> guess if you consider the IK Multimedia STOMP I/O is $1000 (+$229 for >> Fender) and you still need a computer to run it, it sounds a bit less >> crazy. >> >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 1:35 PM, L.Angulo<labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote: >> > >> > seems to have a basic but nice looper as well with record,play,play >once >> > ,overdub and reverse not bad but ouch the price hurts... >> > >> > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >> > >> > >> > --- Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com> schrieb am Di, 30.6.2009: >> > >> >> Von: Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com> >> >> Betreff: Re: MY NEW TOY >> >> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> Datum: Dienstag, 30. Juni 2009, 11:29 >> >> Word on the street is that if you >> >> want *the best* then the Axe-FX is >> >> the route to go: >> >> >> >> http://www.fractalaudio.com/products-fa-axefx.html >> >> >> >> I have no experience with them but the demos sound great: >> >> (even with >> >> youtube compression) >> >> >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubu8A_wmmNI&fmt=18 >> >> >> >> The cost seems prohibitive to me, but if you've got the >> >> cash and want >> >> the best maybe it's worth it. I found my Vox Tonelab/VF-1 >> >> combo to be >> >> good enough for me, and Amplitube to be even better. One >> >> thing that >> >> sold me on the software route is that if I want to do >> >> something that's >> >> not possible in a hardware set up without a bunch of >> >> re-routing I can >> >> do it effortlessly and then call it up as a preset. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Jeff Duke<jeff_d@embarqmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> > thanks Andy, >> >> > >> >> > but you did answer it really. It's funny but i >> >> recently compiled alot of my >> >> > tunes for release on Bandcamp. I realized that the >> >> best (meaning my >> >> > favorite) sounds were all direct into the board >> >> recordings. i have used >> >> > whatever amp/speaker modelers I had in whatever fx box >> >> I was using at the >> >> > time. All the newer stuff was done while wearing >> >> headphones in a quiet >> >> > apartment. >> >> > I arrange it so that my chain is distortion/fuzz into >> >> amp modelers >> >> > (currently Digitech RP 250 and or Korg AX 3000G) >> >> into modfx/delay/reverb >> >> > into loopers into sometimes more mangle fx into mixer. >> >> Not the best way but >> >> > there ya go. i stay stereo from the outputs of the >> >> multi fx boxes. i really >> >> > want a proper mixer so that i can feed more of >> >> everything into everything >> >> > else sort of :) >> >> > All that said i still believe that a good real amp >> >> cranked up sounds better. >> >> > I just can't do that anymore in real life. I guess it >> >> come down to good tone >> >> > being subjective. I am always looking for "the" sound. >> >> hmmm, maybe this? >> >> > http://www.beavisaudio.com/Projects/DBS/ >> >> > >> >> > And your right about Bill Walker! He has the "tone"! >> >> > >> >> > First cup 'o coffee wearing off, gotta go get more! >> >> > >> >> > best, >> >> > >> >> > Jeff >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Ad astra per alia porci - Steinbeck >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > http://jeffduke.org/ >> >> > http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace >> >> > http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/ >> >> > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/loopydroneyglitchywacky-presents >> >> > http://www.justin.tv/loopslab >> >> > http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke >> >> > http://www.reverbnation.com/thejeffduke >> >> > http://virb.com/jeffduke >> >> > http://themineisthemind.blogspot.com/ >> >> > http://www.youtube.com/user/sticky899 >> >> > http://www.sugarat.org/tecbab/ >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" >> >> <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> >> >> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:15 AM >> >> > Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> Jeff Duke wrote: >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> Rather than put two amp sims after the fx, >> >> surely it would be neater to >> >> >>>> put one amp sim between guitar and fx. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> What would you recommend in a stereo amp sim >> >> Andy? >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Jeff >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Oh, I'm probably the worst person to ask about amp >> >> sims ;-) >> >> >> Ask Bill Walker. >> >> >> >> >> >> I only really started playing electric guitar when >> >> I started looping, >> >> >> and while I played bass through a nice valve setup >> >> for years I eventually >> >> >> found that it just wouldn't reproduce the sort of >> >> playing I put into it. >> >> >> (i.e. I used to sometimes get quite a lot going at >> >> once, but wasn't >> >> >> willing to reduce the low frequency content of the >> >> sound.) >> >> >> >> >> >> Hence I now use JBL Eons for everything, and don't >> >> possess a decent amp >> >> >> sim. >> >> >> >> >> >> Currently I'm experimenting with a Moogerfooger >> >> Lo-pass to mellow >> >> >> out the fuzzy tones from my ADA MP1 valve pre. >> >> >> >> >> >> However, the raw fuzz/overdrive sounds I use sound >> >> ok to me, and it seems >> >> >> also to the audience. Only knowledgeable >> >> guitarists have sometimes >> >> >> to worried that I have a flat battery somewhere >> >> ;-) >> >> >> >> >> >> Generally, I reckon that for a looping device, a >> >> clean full range sound is >> >> >> preferable >> >> >> so that the layers can remain distinct in the >> >> mix. >> >> >> >> >> >> Hence I would always put an amp sim before the >> >> looper, rather than after. >> >> >> Then it would be possible to build up a mix using >> >> different amp tones. >> >> >> >> >> >> My guess was that Ted wanted to "ampify" his pa >> >> speakers by putting a >> >> >> stereo >> >> >> amp sim (two SansAmps) just in front of them. >> >> >> It's a different approach...and I don't doubt he'd >> >> make it work. >> >> >> >> >> >> I'd say 'hope that helps', only as I didn't >> >> >> answer the question...... :-) >> >> >> >> >> >> andy >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >