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you're right of course matthias. my work would not be at all the same if i hadn't stumbled onto looping. the tools have directly influenced my "style"! a coda, and then i really will shut up..... i was just thinking about all this categorization business and realize that a huge part of my career strategy is to never categorize myself. if if makes sense: i very actively avoid categorization! i avoid appealing specifically to any one group, even if i am certainly connected to it: loopers, cellists, computer nerds, DIYers, steampunks, goths, ravers, indie rockers, public radio fans, tall female freckled redheads with dreadlocks, etc. i prefer to be the only fish in my pond. if another fish moves in i tend to move out and make another pond. so i think my perceived rejection of "looping" is related to this. (i don't know if that's really a strategy. i've done this my entire life and it might just be my quirky personality) lastly....99% of the people who license my music have NO idea that i even perform live. and as i don't employ live looping in my recordings, for those who know me only from a recording, live looping would just be confusing. respect! z On Dec 14, 2009, at 5:47 AM, Matthias Grob wrote: > On 13 Dec 2009, at 19:51, Zoe Keating wrote: >> if all the electricity disappeared tomorrow, i could still perform, >> but i'd have to hire 8+ cellists to play the music (which is >> actually how looping started for me, i couldn't find enough >> cellists). > > oh, sorry, Zoe, I did not know you started with the compositions and > then only needed a tool to execute them. > and looping did not bring you new ideas? would your compositions > really be the same if you had no looper but 8+ cellists? > If so, I suspect you are rather an exception, or does anyone know of > other composers who use looping tools like this? > >> it would sound different because its not me, but an ensemble of >> cellists could easily play my music. > > sure. which sound would you prefer? > >> no electricity needed. i've already heard 2 groups do it. >> >> i also know of two high profile cellists who perform music with pre- >> recorded cello tracks and them solo'ing in front. (i.e. no live >> looping) >> >> most people think that we all do the same thing (including their >> publicists). it irritates me, but tells me that its not the live >> looping that people are hearing. > > ...which might be a reason for you to use the label LiveLooping more > intensely and for me to finally bring the Livelooping.org site up to > date with all I wrote and joined this year so anyone can easily look > up what its about. And we should make a special chapter for > composers who use the tool to execute what they imagine without the > tool, as opposed to the majority who gather ideas for compositions > by playing with the tool and then possibly execute them with a group > without the tool. >> >> >> >> On Dec 13, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Matthias Grob wrote: >> >>> your music would not be done in any other way, would it? >> >