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The mentioned "Per/Ricky method walk-through" may emanate from some post where I explained how to route MIDI through different levels of Live. But please note that I do not do that myself regarding Mobius! I use the dirt simple direct routing method. I'm in Sim's team here. There is one exception where I route MIDI for Mobius through the host. That is when I run Mobius host synced in Logic and want to record both my source audio and MIDI commands for Mobius. But this is not something for stage activities, it is a pure studio method for catching a live looping performance rather than its resulting audio output. The point is to mock around with the performance. As a funny matter of fact this is where Ableton Live started once upon a time, long before it became the bloated DAW wannabe of today :-)) If you hit "Record" in Live it doesn't record audio, it starts recording MIDI and mixer actions, anything you change in the software audio playback gets recorded. A perfect remix tool. You perform a remix of pre recorded audio and then go back and edit the remix performance. Per On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 12:12 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > Phil Clevenger wrote: >> >> I did note in previous mail that a Note On/ Note Off pair has not worked >> for >> me when passing MIDI thru Live to Echoloop VST, but that passing two> >> Note On messages, both at 127 (not 127 and 0), is working very well. > > > Thanks for that Phil, you indeed said "both at 127" and I missed it. > > I'm not sure that it *should* work though...forwarding to Matt. > (of course, as it's needed for Ableton I guess this behaviour > shouldn't be changed in Echoloop, though it's possible there's other > bad consequences for responding to Note-On as if it were note-Off) > > > I have an email HOWTO for the Per/Ricky method. > > I'm going to forward it to the list, but apologies if the HTML and > screenshots don't format. > ..and apologies to digest readers. > > I can send it direct to anyone who wants it. > > Note though, that most controllers will simply send a Note-Off. > > Andy > ps, this seems to confirm that Ableton is pretty much broken > in terms of Midi routing. > > > > > > >