Re: Software looping

[Josh Elliott <jrelliott500@gmail.com>]

Nice studio Richard! Yea the Apollo looks awesome. For me since i'm just testing the waters I ordered a Focusrite Scarlet 2 channel. They get good reviews. 

I'm really on the fence about going from hardware to software looping. My current hardware rig works and its reliable and pretty flexible. That being said if i could get software to work the way I invision it I could have a more powerful and more portable setup.  

I think for me the problem is that in software its modular and you have to design and program everything. In hardware it just works. I'm up to the challenge though and there is plenty of help here and online. I really wish there were more Mobius tutorials on youtube though. Ill keep plugging forward.

On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Richard Sales <richard@glasswing.com> wrote:

Apollo is very hard to beat.  And if you buy one now, you can get a Satellite with it!

I have an Axe FX SL+.  Brand new in July.  I might sell it.  I just don't have time to explore its glories.  The Eventide H9Max is enough to keep me busy for hours… and hours I don't really have right now and might not have for another half year or so. 

Just keeping this space shuttle studio (www.glasswing.com) flying is a full time job, and that's on top of a hard core production schedule.  

If anyone's interested PM me - richard@glasswing.com

On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 2:19 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

My dream audio interface is the new UAD Apollo Twin Thunderbolt.
http://www.uaudio.com/interfaces/apollo-twin.html

Works with an Apple laptop with Thunderbolt connection.

I remember Bill Walker said he is very pleased with his Twin, but I
can't remember if he has the USB or the Thunderbolt version. Anyway,
the good thing with them is that the audio interface does some
processing so that can be used to tweak a live sound with no latency
(guitar tone? Reverb?). The UAD plugins are also great in studio
recording and a few of them comes bundled with the Twin, but if you
want more you need to buy them separately. If I didn't already have an
excellent solution with my, somewhat bulky, AxeFxII I would be going
for the slick and portable Twin.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.youtube.com/perboysen


On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 1:19 AM, Josh Elliott <jrelliott500@gmail.com> wrote:
> I do have to get a new laptop anyway if I take this rig on the road. I'm
> also getting a new interface no matter what cuz my old art is known for
> latency issues.. That being said in excited to say I've gotten Ableton clips
> in session mode to behave almost like the boomerang 3 by switching launch
> mode to toggle. With monitoring to off I have no latency, everything syncs
> and I think on the cusp of a workaround of effects by setting up a dummy
> track.
>
> On Dec 5, 2015 8:14 AM, "Per Boysen" <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> A better computer won't fix that kind of latency. You simply must
>> avoid to run real-time live audio through the software. Loops are ok,
>> because they won't make sound until the latest recorded layer loops
>> back again (given the software applies latency compensation).
>>
>> The solution is like I mentioned in my first post in this thread; use
>> direct monitoring of your live input. If you want synced effects run
>> them in a pedal or rack device BEFORE the looper and have the looper
>> (or its host appl) send a tempo sync signal back to the effect
>> devices, first in your audio chain. (Instrument --> synced effect
>> devices --> software looper tempo master)
>>
>> Greetings from Sweden
>>
>> Per Boysen
>> www.perboysen.com
>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Josh Elliott <jrelliott500@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I used jbridge and got mobius in there. I think my old dell laptop is
>> > making
>> > the latency be a problem that is making this experience difficult.
>> > Example:
>> > to use live's effects or plug ins on a live instrument channel you have
>> > to
>> > monitor the input which causes you to hear the latency. And the latency
>> > is
>> > like 30 milliseconds..enough to severely affect the timing. So I'm at a
>> > crossroads. I have to consider if I want to continue down this road I'll
>> > have to invest in a better computer. The power and possibilities of this
>> > system are endless but its definitely not plug and play. I was reading
>> > that
>> > Ed Sheeran went to software and it it took him and his tech months to
>> > get it
>> > all working..(Mobius in Ableton)
>> >
>> > On Dec 5, 2015 4:23 AM, "Per Boysen" <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 4:37 AM, Josh Elliott <jrelliott500@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Does she use Mobius in Live or just Live?
>> >>
>> >> She composes and produces the recordings in Logic. For live show
>> >> preparation she has been using Ableton Live. She also has an
>> >> Eletrixpro Repeater, a discontinued rack looper machine that plays one
>> >> loop with four tracks. Several alternative loops can be cues to switch
>> >> between them. I had a Repeater long ago, great device.
>> >>
>> >> >It looks like for me Mobius is out
>> >> > as I have the 64 bit version of Live and it wont recognize Mobius.
>> >>
>> >> There is a software adapter for running 32 bit plugins in 64 bit
>> >> hosts: http://www.soundradix.com/products/32-lives/
>> >>
>> >> You can also use Bitwig instead of Live, as Bitwig is a 64 bit DAW
>> >> that also supports 32 bit plugins. http://www.bitwig.com/
>> >>
>> >> Greetings from Sweden
>> >>
>> >> Per Boysen
>> >> www.perboysen.com
>> >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen
>> >>
>> >
>>
>

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