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Good point, which brings us to another good subject: I'm building my own super-duper Reaktor patch for looping, since I'm tired of looper limitations and convoluted interfaces. It will be based on four of these looping beauties: http://www.nativeinstruments.de/index.php?id=userlibrary_us&type=0&ulbr=1&ftu=f3e347af65&plview=detail&patchid=2392 and a bunch of effects( filters, saturator/distortions, granulators, other delay lines, gates etc.) and I want the structure of the patch to be at least semi-modular, to allow esoteric stuff, like using the effects in the feedback chain. But since i have to build the crap myself, are there any of your who have some good ideas for effects and routing? Mixer configurations? Any help would be appreciated. --- oh, and I intend to use the patch in conjunction with Live5, so I can route audio out and loop that too. Best, Andreas mark sottilaro wrote: >Another good trick is to put a multieffect (for me a >Lexicon MPX1... that I must send out for repair) in my >Repeater's effect loop and spin the dial to a random >preset and see what my loop sounds like when it gets >played back. Fun! > >