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Interesting. Thanks! On Jun 19, 2004, at 12:06 AM, Shane Whitbread wrote: > I can get it to oscillate, pitch shift, spit out random crap....But i > have a > entire board of analog and digital delays that do all that stuff(Ibanez > DDL10 tweaked, diigtech PDS20/20 tweaked, PSK analog delay, boss DM-2, > Ibanez DE7, and soon a modded DD-3 and PB&J), so I use it as a looper > and a > special effects/traditional delay pedal. > > Spend a hour with it if you can, 20 minutes getting used to the > sounds, and > then start to mess with it with a knowledge of it's limitations(or > what you, > at that point think the limitations are). It is a very deep pedal. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DJ" <dhjohnson@mindspring.com> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 11:44 PM > Subject: Re: Retraction and apology to LD and Vox (Re: Vox Tonelab for > looping) > > >> Does it really? Real self-oscillation? You can change the pitch with >> the time knob? If that's so then... WOW! I'll have to check that >> out, >> as that would make it quite a unit. I could swear I read that I would >> not self-oscillate, but I could easily be wrong about this. If I keep >> the pedal board instead of the tonelab then I might have to check this >> out. Thanks! >> >> On Jun 18, 2004, at 11:37 PM, Shane Whitbread wrote: >> >>> the boss DD-20 does tap and oscillation as well. Probably the best >>> delay >>> pedal on the market today...... >>> >>> Also, count this as a bump....I too wanna know if they ocsillate or >>> not...... >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "DJ" <dhjohnson@mindspring.com> >>> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> >>> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 4:39 PM >>> Subject: Re: Retraction and apology to LD and Vox (Re: Vox Tonelab >>> for >>> looping) >>> >>> >>>> That sounds very cool. Do you know, can any of the the tonelabs >>>> delays >>>> self-oscillate a la the old bucket-brigade delays? That is one of >>>> the >>>> coolest effects and no one seems to make delays that can do it. I >>>> need >>>> a delay that has tap tempo self-oscillation and looping. I think >>>> Maneco who make the Maneco loopers is building a device that can do >>>> this. No one mention the line 6 as I am not going to pay that kind >>>> of >>>> money for something that is going to break and the replacement part >>>> cost almost as much as a new unit. My friend had one and when it >>>> broke >>>> that's what line 6 told him to do, buy a new chip or processor which >>>> was probably 75% of the cost of a new unit. When my old memory man >>>> broke I sent it to EH and for 16 bucks they fixed it. >>>> >>>> On Jun 18, 2004, at 4:26 PM, msottilaro wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Jun 18, 2004, at 10:33 AM, DJ wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'm curious, what kind of looping capabilities does the Tonelab SE >>>>>> have? >>>>> >>>>> Vox doesn't advertise it because nobody cares about looping, silly. >>>>> ;) >>>>> Here's what it does straight from the manual: >>>>> >>>>> 10. HOLD DELAY (HOLD DLY) MONO IN/MONO OUT 1 >>>>> If you assign “HOLD DLY” to the CONTROL pedal, you’ll be able to >>>>> hold >>>>> the delay >>>>> sound. >>>>> [1] “TIME” 1–8000 [ms] Sets the delay time. >>>>> [2] “FEEDBACK” 0.0–10.0 * Adjusts the amount of feedback. >>>>> [3] “TONE” 1.0–10.0 * Adjusts the tone of the delay sound. >>>>> [6] “MIX” 0.0–10.0 * Adjusts the mix amount of the delay sound. >>>>> CONTROL pedal: HOLD DLY: If you select “HOLD DLY” for the CONTROL >>>>> pedal, the delay sound will be held from the >>>>> moment you turn the pedal on. >>>>> >>>>> What the manual doesn't say is that when you change delay times it >>>>> behaves like the old Digitech PDS8000 and old analog delay pedals >>>>> where you get all sorts of warping during the change. That makes >>>>> for >>>>> some fun effects. >>>>> >>>>>> lso, I saw you mention in another post that the Tonelab will let >>>>>> you >>>>>> disable the cabinet simulations so you can use it with an amp >>>>>> w/out >>>>>> double filtering your signal. I am wondering if it is possible >>>>>> for >>>>>> you to disable all the amp-like parts and use it as a multi-fx >>>>>> unit. >>>>> >>>>> Yes, that's the idea. >>>>> >>>>>> Can you tweak the parameters in real time easily while you >>>>>> playing? >>>>> >>>>> Yeah, totally. You can also assign any perimeter to one of the >>>>> expression pedals so you don't have to be bending over all the time >>>>> to >>>>> knob twiddle. You can do that as well, though. It's got a really >>>>> simple to navigate interface where you have "soft" knobs that >>>>> change >>>>> function depending on what your tweaking. >>>>> >>>>>> I would like to get the Tonelab to record with and then I would >>>>>> like >>>>>> to use it with a real guitar amp and use just the FX onstage, but >>>>>> I >>>>>> need to be able to adjust things real-time while on stage. Can >>>>>> this >>>>>> be done with the Tonelab? If it also has looping it may have >>>>>> everything I need. Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> That's the whole idea behind this piece of gear. Check it out, you >>>>> may hate it's presets but once tweaked you can do a lot with this >>>>> badboy. >>>>> >>>>> Mark >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >